How would you classify a French person who lives in England for eight years, naturalises as a British citizen and then lives in Scotland for the rest of their life? Are they Scottish or English? Or still only French in your mind?

How does London dictate what happens in Scotland. I don’t really understand that.

…and if so, then what on earth does that Scottish Parliament thing do?

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When Brexit happened, people lost their ability to live and work in multiple places. People attached labels like immigrant, expat, emigrant, migrant to describe people who were just living normal lives across our continent.

So people keep telling me. I don’t really know why my passport says I’m British then.

Loping ted@lopingted.bsky.social · 14h ago

The uk is not one country, thats the issue it’s three countries and a province governed by and for the benefit of the largest country The uk is an English construct forced on the rest of us and no amount of Britwashing and Anglosplaining will ever change that

London is a city so the people there don’t matter. But Scotland is a historic nation and therefore its people matter. ⁉️

Brian Liddy@brian-liddy.bsky.social · 14h ago

London is not equivalent to Scotland. London is a city. Scotland is a historic nation, and is much older than England at that. How dare you compare Scotland to a city simply in terms of population - it’s an insult to Scotland, as was Brexit. Please apologise for BOTH!

Should British people who live in England have a say in England if they were born in Scotland? What about if they were born in France and have become British?

Andrew Hesselden@andrewhesselden.bsky.social · 14h ago

Yes, absolutely if you think they’re four equal and independent countries. How dare Brits living in England have any influence over what happens in Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland? And vice versa. It’s outrageous, really A real infringement of sovereignty??? Sounds a bit like Brexit to me.

Of course, if you think that the votes of all British people should count the same no matter where they live, then our system could not be better.

Yes, absolutely if you think they’re four equal and independent countries. How dare Brits living in England have any influence over what happens in Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland? And vice versa. It’s outrageous, really A real infringement of sovereignty??? Sounds a bit like Brexit to me.

One of the biggest problems with Brexit is that because it has happened and is in the past, many have also just accepted HOW it happened.

I posted quite a detailed thread on Twitter at the time. It was quite popular. We are supposed to be a Parliamentary democracy, not a pamphlet autocracy.

Note also the operative word: "should". That is a word of recommendation, not a word of command.

Think about the implications if we accept the precedent: any PM can bypass parliament and introduce a policy simply by printing it out and distributing it.

Today’s politicians should not bind generations of tomorrow any more than Brexiters who gave us Brexit should oblige us to be outside the EU forever more. I don’t agree with your framing that the euro or economic conditions are restrictive on EU members. Presumably they are glad to be in the euro.

I think in a global world, the concept of emigration and immigration certainly within a continent like Europe both seem like outdated terms

If I go to work in Germany for eight weeks, am I an immigrant? Is that the best word to use?

Niall is just doing his usual “UK bad, EU good routine”. Of course, *if* this party —with 1% of MPs and that isn’t in government— were to ever get into government AND were to take such abhorrent action, Niall can’t predict what the EU would do in retaliation. I doubt they will take it lying down.

Niall needs to recognise that you reside where you reside @anglo-european.bsky.social

Niall has no evidence that anything like a majority of the electorate sought to hurt foreigners or even thought it would be immune. Where’s the evidence? It’s just his usual inflammatory nonsense.

Of course there is. It’s someone who resides for part of the year. What it says on the tin. The fact that @anglo-european.bsky.social has had his rights taken away doesn’t make him a tourist in his own home. Or shouldn’t!

The referendum question wasn’t: “Should the UK leave the EU, Single Market and EEA, end freedom of movement and erect new barriers to trade with Europe?” It asked whether we should remain a member of the European Union or leave it.

I think I’m going to **block** anyone who insists on telling me that the euro will be a condition of rejoining the EU. Here’s a more honest explanation of why the Euro really isn’t anything to worry about: bsky.app/profile/andr...

Andrew Hesselden@andrewhesselden.bsky.social · last mo.

1. Thread 🧵 Don't worry about the euro 💶. When the question of the euro comes, we'll have that debate honestly, openly and on its own merits. Today, the question is simply whether Britain belongs back in the European Union or not.

The 3.5% idea is often misunderstood as a magic number. The more useful lesson is about committed minorities, participation and visibility. You don't necessarily begin by convincing everyone. You build enough visible momentum that other people start convincing each other.

I think I’m going to **block** anyone who insists on telling me that the euro will be a condition of rejoining the EU. Here’s a more honest explanation of why the Euro really isn’t anything to worry about: bsky.app/profile/andr...

Andrew Hesselden@andrewhesselden.bsky.social · last mo.

1. Thread 🧵 Don't worry about the euro 💶. When the question of the euro comes, we'll have that debate honestly, openly and on its own merits. Today, the question is simply whether Britain belongs back in the European Union or not.

The hardest supporters to recruit may be the first ones. Later supporters can see a movement, see other people joining and see evidence that change might actually happen. Success reduces the psychological cost of joining. Momentum therefore isn't just an outcome. It's an asset.

"The choice is make a virtue of €" I've no problem with this Making a virtue of € is fine My problem is when you want to win a referendum you build the broadest possible coalition - you dont focus on an issue that at the earliest will come a decade or so down the line, UK voters decide upon then.

Weary sigh. Only UK remainers have these conversations. The euro is great, I look forward to joining it but its not a blood sacrifice we have to make within 2 years. We have 0% chance of even meeting the criteria til 2040 at earliest. We can, as all other member states, join when we are ready to.

Exactly this 👇

Nick Craw🇪🇺🇨🇦🇬🇱🇹🇭@nickcraw.bsky.social · 2d ago

1. Once again euro is not on the ballot - unless remainers are stupid enough to put it there 2. There'll be lots of different rejoin voters from those *super europeans* who want everything stratight away and an EU flag on every building...to those who merely want SM - I want them all to join in

The 3.5% idea is often misunderstood as a magic number. The more useful lesson is about committed minorities, participation and visibility. You don't necessarily begin by convincing everyone. You build enough visible momentum that other people start convincing each other.

1. Once again euro is not on the ballot - unless remainers are stupid enough to put it there 2. There'll be lots of different rejoin voters from those *super europeans* who want everything stratight away and an EU flag on every building...to those who merely want SM - I want them all to join in