Andrew Lilley Brinker

@alilleybrinker.com

Memory safety / Rust 🦀, Dodger baseball ⚾️ ...also #jj-vcs, urbanism, and more. Helping you assess OSS risks with @hipcheck.mitre.org. Principal Engineer at MITRE (opinions are mine) blogs: alilleybrinker.com / possiblerust.com

Some things get worse because people are incentivized to make them worse. Search aggregates searchers, which businesses need so they can find potential customers, so they're incentivized to game search results. The aggregator wants the best results, not the most-gamed, so it's a natural arms race.

Andrew Lilley Brinker@alilleybrinker.com · 3h ago

I've been saying recently that AI "search" will eventually face a strong adversarial environment the way regular search does today, because gaming your appearance in the aggregation point of the information ecosystem is too valuable *not* to do.

I've been saying recently that AI "search" will eventually face a strong adversarial environment the way regular search does today, because gaming your appearance in the aggregation point of the information ecosystem is too valuable *not* to do.

GT 🫪@granitetide.bsky.social · 3h ago

Google's move to AI means traditional SEO doesn't work anymore so every big company is now desperately doing Reddit AMAs to try and get their responses ingested by the Gemini slop machine and farted out in AI summaries

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Last year I volunteered with a group that provides meals to immigrant families, and they started by having us play a game. You're given a card describing a person's circumstances as they try to immigrate to the US. You have to walk through 6 POSTER BOARDS of flowcharts to see if they can make it.

Jonathon M. Floyd@jfloyd314.bsky.social · 2d ago

Genuinely, the vast majority of American voters believe that only laziness or criminal intent could be stopping the average immigrant from obtaining US citizenship. The truth is that becoming a US citizen takes years upon years of work and requires navigating a baroque bureaucratic nightmare.

I get where Katie's coming from, but pure text interfaces have a real problem with discoverability. You want users to know what more the tool can do, but lack clear mechanisms for them to discover it organically. So this kind of prompting is a key part of how you teach them its capabilities.

Katie Mack@astrokatie.com · 4d ago

I’ve seen a lot of my colleagues’ interactions with Claude working on research problems & it would be easier for me to accept it as a serious scientific tool if it didn’t end every single response with the LLM equivalent of “you want fries with that?” — constantly trying to goad you into asking more

My favorite thing about CISA's work on OSS policy the last few years has been how much they *get* that OSS is a participatory ecosystem. They know the burdens OSS maintainers face, and want federal agencies and private industry to participate and own their responsibilities as integrators.

Google search results *and* websites are doomed to get worse under search aggregation because of structural forces. Google needs to constantly evolve the algorithm to keep SEO slop down. Legit websites need to do SEO that degrades the experience to maintain rankings. Everyone pays the cost of spam

Andrew Lilley Brinker@alilleybrinker.com · 7d ago

Yeah I agree that Google products have gotten genuinely worse, though I think search (even pre-AI) has the unenviable challenge of being in a persistently adversarial environment of Search Engine Optimization (SEO) for websites.

To people asking "does anyone really want this?" about new AI features in products, the answer is sometimes overwhelmingly yes! AI chat products had rapid product-market fit and remain highly actively used! Not all AI features are desirable, but consumers clearly *want* AI in some contexts.