So true! Every time I see a dev rant about production as a discipline, it’s a game of “ok but who hurt you” The dynamic when they meet a good producers is also very much like “problematic shelter dog that becomes a cuddle ball once it feels safe”
I think a lot of people have been beaten down by bad producers and bad process but on my last job where I regularly interfaced with a producer having a producer was a blessing I was thankful every day. This is true even if there was inherent friction between my role and the producer's!