Further or Alternatively

@furtheror.bsky.social

A barrister who uses the other site too. Also at: https://furtheroralternatively.blogspot.com/

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I don't think people dislike low-skilled immigrants. They're nice people! It's the prospect that low-skilled immigration might be a sign that *something* has gone wrong here that is the worry. Some thoughts on what might have gone wrong in the thread. (And these are not worries for high-skilled.)

FFurther or Alternatively@furtheror.bsky.social · 4mo ago

Or manage a Premiership Club? But low-skilled jobs aren't like that. So if people are being imported to fill them, that's a sign that *something* has gone wrong. It could be: - locals are somehow shut out of the job market, by circumstance, illness, caring responsibilities, whatever. That's bad!

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One thing to think about is this: a possible outcome of the next General Election is a Grand Coalition of Lab & Con. It happens in Germany; it can happen here. What would that look like? What policies would appear capable of agreement? This might not be the worst place to start looking.

FFurther or Alternatively@furtheror.bsky.social · 5mo ago

There's much to like in this. I'm quoting some bits that seem v sensible: - cutting NI - low taxes on entrepreneurs - cutting back judicial review - more nuclear power

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Fair to say that the Labour Growth Group's ideas are getting mixed reviews here on *BlueSky*. This is a shame. Something similar to this needs to become common ground in the sensible centre. You can't "share the proceeds of growth" without growth.

FFurther or Alternatively@furtheror.bsky.social · 5mo ago

There's much to like in this. I'm quoting some bits that seem v sensible: - cutting NI - low taxes on entrepreneurs - cutting back judicial review - more nuclear power

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There's much to like in this. I'm quoting some bits that seem v sensible: - cutting NI - low taxes on entrepreneurs - cutting back judicial review - more nuclear power

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Gaby Hinsliff@gabyhinsliff.bsky.social · 5mo ago

Whoever ends up leader, Labour needs ideas: this from @labourgrowth.bsky.social is an interesting riff on Abundance - basically, 1. make people better off by reforms that make basic goods (housing, energy, childcare) cheaper 2. reward work not sweating assets (graft not grift) www.labourgrowth.co.uk

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I've been thinking more about this. I wonder if this is one of those areas where Right & Left talk past each other. Please can someone explain to me what major *policies* (not outcomes) the Blairite centre left wants that it has not got? I understand the further Left, but the centre Left?

FFurther or Alternatively@furtheror.bsky.social · 6mo ago

What was reversed? Devolution? Minimum wage? Public-private partnerships? The world we live in, so the story goes, is the world created by Blair & maintained by Cameron as explicitly the heir to Blair. That's the Right's critique.

From now on, when discussing the budget, please use “is this measure bigger than the cost to the exchequer of gen Z drinking less” as your metric for assessing whether something actually raises or costs a significant sum

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Surely this is *good* welfare state design? Rich people can save money to insure themselves against ill-fortune - that's not taxpayer's job; the welfare state is there to provide a flat (but springy) safety net at the bottom. (This has got nothing to do with racism.)

Stephen Bush@stephenkb.bsky.social · last yr.

UK welfare state is v badly designed for this reason, but the difficulty with all these “it’s actually economics” is all of these things were true *in 2023* and there still isn’t a correlation with the people who say, do and believe racist stuff!

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My objection to this is that it is expressly intended to be retrospective: it's intended to "take chunks out of" wealth already owned. That wealth was accumulated when the rules were different - it's as unfair to change the rules now as to change last year's income tax rates.

Chaminda Jayanetti@cjayanetti.bsky.social · last yr.

The other thing I'd suggest is extending capital gains tax to primary homes. Labour people please hold on before throwing election-sized bricks at me. I think this might be doable. What you essentially want to do is take chunks out of that giant unearned boomer housing wealth.

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I'm not disputing that weird things have happened to the generations, but it's worth being aware of what the past was like. In 92/93: - police sergeant £20,343 - £23,337; promotion -up to Chief Constable on £70k+. - junior hospital doctor £19,550; promotion - up to consultant on £50k. - GP £40k...

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I have some sympathy with this position, but I don't think it's the final word. Some thoughts: (1) This is interviewing we are discussing, not merely factual reporting. That will often, rightly, involve putting a different view to the interviewee. That can be "many people say X, what do you say?"

Robert Saunders@robertsaunders.bsky.social · last yr.

The "he says, she says" model isn't just bad journalism: it's anti-journalism, because it abdicates the core journalistic responsibility to establish the facts & report them. And it feeds the model of politics as a spectator sport, in which the role of the commentator is just to describe the play.