I said (paraphrasing): A lot of people would have wanted to move here and could have been productive and happy and sent money back to their families and built a global care network. Instead, we're going to lock them out and force women inside the wall to produce more children. Not how I would do it.
That's me on Population Balance's @popnbalance.bsky.social Overshoot podcast, "Falling Birthrates are Not a Crisis," with Nandita Bajaj and Alan Ware: