Conveniently like the day after I listened to this someone recommended reading The Will to Change in a group I'm in. Anyway looking forward to the day I turn on this podcast and it's just an hour of Talia and Emma screaming.

Cracked Ivory@crackedivorypod.bsky.social · 2w ago

"The Will to Change" is often recommended as a text that addresses men's concerns in feminist movements and elucidates how men benefit from participation in feminism. But is that actually the case? Emma and Talia discuss the text, and whether anyone reads the works they recommend!

Ein verdient brutaler Take Down für den Klassiker der „Männer die das lesen sind die Guten“-Literatur. Dabei zeigt die Analyse direkt: hooks schreibt gar nicht an Männer, sondern an Feministinnen, denen sie konstant vorwirft, sich nicht genug um Männer zu kümmern

Cracked Ivory@crackedivorypod.bsky.social · 2w ago

"The Will to Change" is often recommended as a text that addresses men's concerns in feminist movements and elucidates how men benefit from participation in feminism. But is that actually the case? Emma and Talia discuss the text, and whether anyone reads the works they recommend!

Dabei kommt es nicht nur zu den erwartbaren Verschiebungen von Fokus und Verantwortlichkeit sondern zu ziemlich bizarren Quasi-Eso-Kategorien die hooks einführen muss um „Feministsiche Männlichkeit“ als Männlichkeit zu retten obwohl sie genau so wie feministische Weiblichkeit sein soll

Warum das Buch bei Kritischen Männern so bleibt ist, ist aber kein Geheimnis: Die Message ist durchgehend, dass Männer Herrschaft aus Defiziten und „Gehirnwäsche“ ausüben und erst alle (inklusive Frauen/Feministinnen) sich um ihre Verletztheit kümmern müssen um das zu ändern

this is why I say the comphet essay is one of the most important feminist writings bc she gets away from this fixation on the desire to be close to men and rather points out how material factors coerce you into being unable to say no to them, even the nice ones

similarly it also doesn't matter if some men are wonderful husbands and fathers. what happens to the family if he gets a TBI that completely changes his personality or he loses his job or fucking dies? stupid stupid stupid

a man being mean to women wouldn't really mean jack shit if he was in no position to hold his wife and children hostage you get me. hooks mentions abusive mothers as like a ding against radical feminist theory and I'm just like oh no! you forgot about youth oppression and why that happens!!!

when you think patriarchy is men being mean to women then it's extremely easy to "debunk" it bc some men are nice and it feminism becomes this touchy feely forgive your abusers slop vs acknowledging that abuse is enabled via power dynamics that privilege the patriarch

I'm halfway through this rn and firstly Emma you are so brave but secondly I am once again saying I'm so fucking over ppl framing patriarchy as men being mean to women and ignoring the goddamn material analysis of it bc that's what fucking matters

Cracked Ivory@crackedivorypod.bsky.social · 2w ago

"The Will to Change" is often recommended as a text that addresses men's concerns in feminist movements and elucidates how men benefit from participation in feminism. But is that actually the case? Emma and Talia discuss the text, and whether anyone reads the works they recommend!

You should all listen to @crackedivorypod.bsky.social

Oh god, you know how Joh* B*yne gives out about trans people being men's rights activists, this is what Tobia is. They are literally a TERF idea of trans activism.

Cracked Ivory@crackedivorypod.bsky.social · 2d ago

The companion episode to our discussion of "The Will to Change" is now out on Patreon! Talia and Emma discuss Jacob Tobia's "Before They Were Men", an autopsy on 2010s-era trans activism that effectively demonstrates the moral cowardice of Western trans liberals and their politics of appeasement.

This episode was really good and voiced a lot of frustrations that I have I appreciate it a lot

Cracked Ivory@crackedivorypod.bsky.social · 2d ago

Our discussion of bell hooks' "The Will to Change" is also out now, wherever you listen to podcasts! Join Emma and Talia's retrospective on one of the most oft-recommended feminist books and why its popularity may be out of step with its actual message.

There's a chance that people might consider some of the things I say here to be excessively vicious. I want to emphasize that I consider the politics espoused to be so self-defeating, utterly without merit, and yet so ubiquitous and constantly reiterated that I have to repudiate them harshly.

Cracked Ivory@crackedivorypod.bsky.social · 2d ago

The companion episode to our discussion of "The Will to Change" is now out on Patreon! Talia and Emma discuss Jacob Tobia's "Before They Were Men", an autopsy on 2010s-era trans activism that effectively demonstrates the moral cowardice of Western trans liberals and their politics of appeasement.

The companion episode to our discussion of "The Will to Change" is now out on Patreon! Talia and Emma discuss Jacob Tobia's "Before They Were Men", an autopsy on 2010s-era trans activism that effectively demonstrates the moral cowardice of Western trans liberals and their politics of appeasement.

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genuinely confused at how much this shit gets recommended but then I remember it's because people don't like lesbians (and especially lesbians being right) and it's a way to say women are the meanies with a few good takes in-between that mean little because of how incoherent everything is

yeah the response is yet another example of "you cannot meet an oppressor class halfway that is fine where it is because they will just think you don't go far enough for them"

the final pop-off from Talia feels really good life fuck

a very funny thing is how much this line of "the men are purely victims of patriarchy and benefiting from it is only for the ones that are powerful/rich" is present in some queer and leftist circles (along the lines that the only axis of oppression that matters is class)

you'd think that men are powerless beings incapable of free thought and initiative when you listen to some of this they're literally just little guys, none of this is their fault lmao

the cognitive dissonance is making my head hurt ngl

*muttering furiously* we should not have kept talking about penises, this was a bad idea

'let's talk about penises' ooooor we could not?

"Man is when penis" is one of the feminist analysis of all time ngl

Listening to this one now and I've reached the point where the book goes "no but you see we need to tear down the societal construct that is masculinity and instead use the good real biological indicator of masculinity, the penis, because bio essentialism is good" and I feel like I'm having a stroke

Cracked Ivory@crackedivorypod.bsky.social · 2w ago

"The Will to Change" is often recommended as a text that addresses men's concerns in feminist movements and elucidates how men benefit from participation in feminism. But is that actually the case? Emma and Talia discuss the text, and whether anyone reads the works they recommend!

if you are considering subscribing for patreon episodes, it's definitely worth it, this episode is just fucking absurd [complimentary] and also somehow insightful at the same time. A delight.

Cracked Ivory@crackedivorypod.bsky.social · 12mo ago

Our Patreon-exclusive companion episode to 'Female Masculinity' is out now! Emma, Isaac and Talia discuss Jack Halberstam's fixation on the homoeroticism of the men's bathroom to answer the most fundamental Marxist question: is pooping in private bourgeois? We descend into despair for another hour!

listening to @crackedivorypod.bsky.social discuss gender trouble and feeling like the most vindicated woman ever

Why the fuck would any parent communicate to their child that their genitals are 'wonderful, special, marvelous'

Cracked Ivory@crackedivorypod.bsky.social · 3w ago

What is happening. Why are we doing "Freud: For Her"

Talia and Emma make me feel so much less insane for being a harsh critic of Bell Hooks' shitass feminism for years. Give this episode a listen, it's great as always!

Cracked Ivory@crackedivorypod.bsky.social · 2w ago

"The Will to Change" is often recommended as a text that addresses men's concerns in feminist movements and elucidates how men benefit from participation in feminism. But is that actually the case? Emma and Talia discuss the text, and whether anyone reads the works they recommend!

"The Will to Change" is often recommended as a text that addresses men's concerns in feminist movements and elucidates how men benefit from participation in feminism. But is that actually the case? Emma and Talia discuss the text, and whether anyone reads the works they recommend!

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What is happening. Why are we doing "Freud: For Her"