Julian 🏳️‍🌈

@julian.andanti.no

Amateur volleyballer, board gamer, and overall pretty relaxed dude.

But that's the thing: I don't believe that these people actually care about the ethics of AI personhood. It is because they know the robots aren't people that they feel safe wringing their hands over their personhood. Real people? Eh. They require stuff from you

In 1973, the Thai military set up a right-wing paramilitary group called the Red Gaurs (Krating Daeng) In 1976, the same year the group carried out the Thammasat Massacre, the Krating Daeng energy drink came on the market in Thailand In 1984, Krating Daeng began to be sold globally as Red Bull

A Red Gaurs paramilitary patch showing a red bull against a yellow trident on a blue backgroundThe Krating Daeng logo showing two red bulls against a yellow circle on a blue backgroundThe logo for Red Bull showing two red bulls against a yellow circle on a white background
Mae Nick Phra Khanong@nickjbrumfield.bsky.social · 6d ago

The Right wasn't going to take this sitting down though Backed by the military, right-wing elites formed the paramilitary Villages Scouts and Red Gaurs, and cultivated an atmosphere of right-wing intimidation Even before the massacre, several farmer leaders were assassinated in northern Thailand

The cover of the book "Revolution Interrupted: Farmers, Students, Law, and Violence in Northern Thailand" by Tyrell Haberkorn

Women trying to succeed in Silicon Valley AI and effective altruist spaces are reporting feeling serious social pressure to attend sex parties - where people have reported being sexually assaulted, like below. Events like Aella’s “Slutcon,” which is happening again this weekend.

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I am disheartened by this as well. I already lost a bunch of followers for agreeing with @tautologer, but it's saddening to see local nerdy women being caricatured as Karen-like outsiders and getting pushed out of the scene. This is exactly why you hear so few concrete, names-attached stories of sexual harrassment and assault. I'm told there is a history of discrediting these because the "slut normalization" thing is top priority and these stories get inconveniently in the way of spreading this ideology.
I got roped into attending last year's Saturday Slutcon party because so many local and out-of-town friends were there (to echo sentiments @tautologer expressed about "slut events becoming central to the larger scenes). Mostly I hung out with people I knew and that was great. But in the course of my 3-ish hours there, there were 2 times my "no" was not accepted by a man I didn't know, and I was physically pushing a huge guy off of me who was rubbing his penis on me, who continued to do it despite my physical force against him, and after I finally wriggled away from him, told him I wanted to dance alone etc., he came back and did it again.
This was scary and bad, but it didn't even cross my mind to report this because one of the other people who didn't accept my "no" earlier in the night was the bartender (an officially sanctioned authority at the event), and I knew the event was organized exclusively by women into CNC (who are vocal about how rapey behavior turns them on), so I figured this sort of thing would just get me laughed at. And anyway, I heard there were a lot of other incidents like it. Later though, someone encouraged me to report this story to the organizers, and despite my embarrassment I did, so *they know* that this and other incidents happened. This is why they cut the Saturday night party this year and created a larger training program for the flirt girls - *because* of things like this last year. Yet the narrative bein…People who haven't been to Slutcon are saying "it's just group therapy," "it's just innocent flirting." But the environment is much like a sex party in that many people are nude, there is making out and sex acts happening out in the open. I think it's pretty unreasonable to expect that every nerdy girl who likes rationalist bloggers or is into EA/AI safety should automatically be comfortable with this! That if she's not, there's something wrong with her, we don't want her in our scenes, etc.
Not to mention, it's explictly an event *for men*, where men are the clients and the "flirt girls" are the product. Last year I overheard an exchange where a man felt "led on" by a flirt girl and was trying to get her punished/kicked out. (A dynamic that seems inevitable in this context!)
Anyway- it does sound like they've upped their consent education a lot this year, are more organized, and that's good! As I've told my friends who are attending: I hope they have fun!
I heard several accounts last year of women who had no problems and really enjoyed the event. That's great!
Just... can we live in reality about this? There are real reasons why male-female sexual dynamics are tricky.
Encouraging autistic men who can't yet read body language to go around asking to see womens' boobs is maybe a bit ill-advised. Maybe not everyone should be/identify as a slut; maybe it's not for everyone.
And yeah, filtering the Bay Area Al safety scene down to only women who are super comfy with this eliminates *most* women - including many of the really smart, nerdy, weird women who've been in the larger scenes for years. What a loss for humanity.
I absolutely understand why people with a minority sexuality would want to create belonging, would want to create spaces for people like themselves. But why do it like this/at this cost?

"I dunno man maybe the reasoning behind your argument was faulty and you should reconsider that rather than assuming everyone mad at you is stupid" -Impossible Statements That Could Never Be True

Right now, you're just worried about your elderly relatives getting addicted to Facebook news. Turns out there's a whole 'nother level: www.reddit.com/r/BeyondtheA... I have a feeling "AI companions" are gonna test a lot of people's "as long as they're happy!" inclinations.

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